I heard they changed it because of the Kingdom songs, the only thing they could get to rhyme with Zion were lyin and cryin.
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Question about Zion's Watch Tower
by jwfacts incan anyone tell me the year zion's watch tower was changed to the watchtower, and also why?
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A recent Awake that said earth's population would fit in T
by AlmostAtheist ini bumped into a jw at the store the other day.
he doesn't know i'm df'd (apparently) and i didn't decide to enlighten him.
he banged on for a bit about people we both knew, how service was that morning, etc.
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If you went to college your math is probably better than any of the witnesses. I'll go with your figure.
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I think I've finally had it! (long)
by lynnmelo insome of you may know that i had regularly been studying with the jw's for about two years, but i was never baptized.
i stumbled on some information about the child molestation scandal a few months ago, and that started me on the road to questioning the organization (for further details on my situation, see my topic history).. anyway, up until now, i had decided to just fade into the background, still attending sunday kh meetings because i want to attend some church, and i just don't know where else to go (don't agree w/ the teachings of the other churches in my vicinity either).
my last "study" w/ my bible study conductor (a month or so ago) was terrible.
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Boxed elder bugs
This woman is a fanatic, and you should run away from her like a jew running from a nazi persecutor. You'll either conform to her expectations or get kicked out by the elders at her behest .I think I hear the sound of boots coming for you.
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Do you kiss your dog?
by AK - Jeff in.
and is it just a peck or a nice wet one on the nose?.
jeff [of the i am bored tonight class]
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Boxed elder bugs
No but I rub noses together.
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Am I a JW or not? Year of Baptisim and year of falling away.
by truth about the last days ini put this page on just to know how many jws there are on this site.
i am sure that we all will be intrested to know as to who stands where.
i am only requesting if we are a jw or not, the year we got baptized and the year that we decided to leave.
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Boxed elder bugs
baptized in water in 66, baptized in fire at Bethel 74-77, officially resigned in 82 but was illegally disfellowshipped afterwards unbeknowsnt to me.
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Truth Book or not?
by Rooster inthis book was published in 1981 notice the leading question posted below.
[study questions]
(a) since god will soon destroy this system of things, what question do we need to ask about our worship?
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Boxed elder bugs
Does anyone know if they have revised the truth book since the new light in 1995 about the generation that saw 1914 beginng living until the end change they made, which I was not around for since I tuned in, turned on, and dropped out in the late seventies.
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Kingdom Melodies Mental Block
by Nosferatu inokay, there's what... 225 kingdom melodies (in the 1984 songbook).
when we were in, we sang these 225 songs, some of them many many times over.
yet, i can't remember the words to a complete kingdom melody.. however, i've listened to blue oyster cult's "agents of fortune" album many times, and i can remember pretty much all the lyrics.. perhaps kingdom melodies are the ultimate collection of lullabys.. you make known, that the truth izzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
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Boxed elder bugs
How but trying to hit those high notes like I think the song is 'What will you bring Jehovah's Kingdom' and you sing "Praise the universal sovereign for his love and righteousness" that world praise is an awfully high note to suddenly sneak up on you and likely to cause a unsuspecting gum chewer to swallow and choke if not careful. The transition from high notes to low notes in many of those songs is ridiculous, but the melodies do stick in my head after being raised in the 'truth' even though I have been away for several decades.
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Nathan Knorr and Bethel Life in the seventies
by Boxed elder bugs inwhen i was at bethel in the 70's the president of the watchtower society nathan knorr was really unpopular among a lot of bethelites because he supported the four year oblligation for bethelites to stay at bethel and stay single for four years.
i had heard that over nintey percent of the people who left bethel fell away from the jw religion afterwards, i was among that number, and i had heard that the majority of people who came to bethel did not keep there four year commitment but left in less than a year, i know the majority of people i started with lasted about a year at bethel, i was dumb enough to stay at bethel three and one half years.
i guess it was because i was raised in the witnesses and didn't know what to do after i lost my faith in that religion while i was there.
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Boxed elder bugs
A couple of quick answers to your questions-Belbab as far as I know Knorr died of brain tumor which he was suffering from towards the end of my time at Bethel his speech was affected by it and he seemed very depressed no doubt suffering which I can sympathize with except he was suppose to believe he was going to heaven, he was also very upset about the new rotating elder arrangment, which is an article in itself sometime.
Cellist -no real deep meaning to my screen name just for laughs, in Minnesota we have Box elder bugs who clump together in trees and basically can crawl or swarm around you in an irritating fashion if your near them. The JW elders are boxed in by the witness rules clump together at times to DF some poor person who gets publically humiliated by it, and they definitely bug me if not the rest of you thus there Boxed elder bugs to me.
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Nathan Knorr and Bethel Life in the seventies
by Boxed elder bugs inwhen i was at bethel in the 70's the president of the watchtower society nathan knorr was really unpopular among a lot of bethelites because he supported the four year oblligation for bethelites to stay at bethel and stay single for four years.
i had heard that over nintey percent of the people who left bethel fell away from the jw religion afterwards, i was among that number, and i had heard that the majority of people who came to bethel did not keep there four year commitment but left in less than a year, i know the majority of people i started with lasted about a year at bethel, i was dumb enough to stay at bethel three and one half years.
i guess it was because i was raised in the witnesses and didn't know what to do after i lost my faith in that religion while i was there.
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Thanks everyone for your responses to my comment, I'll have more to say about Bethel and Knorr (or should I say Bore) in the future. Gotta go.
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Nathan Knorr and Bethel Life in the seventies
by Boxed elder bugs inwhen i was at bethel in the 70's the president of the watchtower society nathan knorr was really unpopular among a lot of bethelites because he supported the four year oblligation for bethelites to stay at bethel and stay single for four years.
i had heard that over nintey percent of the people who left bethel fell away from the jw religion afterwards, i was among that number, and i had heard that the majority of people who came to bethel did not keep there four year commitment but left in less than a year, i know the majority of people i started with lasted about a year at bethel, i was dumb enough to stay at bethel three and one half years.
i guess it was because i was raised in the witnesses and didn't know what to do after i lost my faith in that religion while i was there.
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Boxed elder bugs
When I was at Bethel in the 70's the President of the Watchtower Society Nathan Knorr was really unpopular among a lot of Bethelites because he supported the four year oblligation for Bethelites to stay at Bethel and stay single for four years. I had heard that over nintey percent of the people who left Bethel fell away from the JW religion afterwards, I was among that number, and I had heard that the majority of people who came to Bethel did not keep there four year commitment but left in less than a year, I know the majority of people I started with lasted about a year at Bethel, I was dumb enough to stay at Bethel three and one half years. I guess it was because I was raised in the Witnesses and didn't know what to do after I lost my faith in that religion while I was there.
I grew to hate Knorr and thought he was boring at all assemblies announcing things like how many tracts were place at homes that year etc., saying it like that was interesting information, a real dullard. I over heard Knorr answer somebody who told him that the Bethel Family missed him while he had been away responding "I wonder if the family really missed me." I know I didn't. There was a suicide while I was at Bethel and I heard one before I came. There was also stealing going on. That Bethel was a spiritual paradise was a myth.